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- IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)
-
- REPORT FROM THE TELECONFERENCE
-
- October 1st, 1992
-
- Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary
-
- This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.
- For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.
-
- iesg-secretary@nri.reston.va.us
-
-
- ATTENDEES
- ---------
-
- Almquist, Philip / Consultant
- Borman, David / Cray Research
- Crocker, Dave / TBO
- Crocker, Steve / TIS
- Davin, Chuck / Bellcore
- Gross, Philip / ANS
- Hinden, Robert / SUN
- Hobby, Russ /UC-Davis
- Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
- Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI
-
- Regrets
- Coya, Steve / CNRI
- Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
- Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
- Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
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-
-
- AGENDA
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- 1) Administivia
- o Role Call
- o Bash the Agenda
- o Approval of the Minutes
- o Next Meeting
-
- 2) Protocol Actions
-
- o TCP/IP Header Compression
- o PPP Authentication
- o Generic Interface MIB
- o Token Ring MIB
- o Token Bus MIB
- o RIP Version 2
- o RIP Version 2 MIB
- o RIP Protocol Analysis
- o BGP Default Route Advertisement
- o OSPF AS
- o Ident MIB
- o Ident
-
- 3) RFC Editor Actions
-
- o Sender Initiated File Transfer Protocol (SIFT)
-
- 4) Working Group Actions
-
- o UPS MIB (upsmib)
- o P Internet Protocol (pip)
- o IPAE (ipae)
-
- 5) Technical Management Issues
-
- o Feedback to SMTP Working Group
- o ROAD Activities
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-
-
-
- MINUTES
-
- 1) Administrivia
-
- o Bash the Agenda
-
- The agenda was approved as written.
-
- o Approval of the Minutes
-
- Review and approval of the minutes for the September 10th, 14th, and
- 21st meetings was deferred.
-
- o Next Meeting
-
- The IESG set the next Teleconference time for October 8th, 12:00
- ET. The IESG discussed the necessity for weekly teleconferences and
- concluded that weekly meetings will be needed at least until the
- November IETF meeting.
-
- 2) Protocol Actions
-
- With these minutes, only protocols currently awaiting specific IESG
- action will be listed. Protocols for which a last call has been
- issued but for which there is outstanding action items in the
- submitting Working Group will not be listed.
-
- o TCP/IP Header Compression
-
- The IESG has the list of textual changes requested to RFC 1144.
- There are two types of changes, edits to the sample code to fix
- known bugs, and additional clarifications and implementation
- advise. Small changes to the document are relatively easy, but
- because of the difficulty of generating an ASCII version,
- significant changes likely to affect pagination will take time the
- is not willing to invest. In the interest of getting this long
- delayed protocol advanced, the IESG decided to incorporate only the
- bug fixes to the sample code and encourage the writing of a separate
- document with clarifications and implementation advise.
-
- Continuing Action: Borman - Ensure that a new version of the TCP/IP
- Header Compression document is submitted to the IESG.
-
- o PPP Authentication
-
- The IESG received notice from the PPP extensions Working Group that
- this protocol has been reviewed and the changes requested by the IAB
- have been accepted by the Working Group. The IESG approved this
- document for submission to the IAB as a Proposed Standard.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil - Send a new recommendation to the IAB to elevate PPP
- Authentication to Proposed Standard.
-
- o Generic Interface MIB
-
- The IESG has received comments from the Last Call which identified
- the need to revise this MIB. Until this MIB is revised, the IESG is
- unable to act and so has decided to #put this document into
- suspended animation#.
-
- ACTION: Davin -- Notify the author of the Generic Interface MIB that it
- needs revision before the IESG can consider advancing it to Draft
- Standard. If necessary, conduct a review of this MIB to determine if
- the changes require a re-cycle at Proposed Standard or elevation as a
- Draft Standard.
-
- o Token Ring MIB
-
- There is insufficient information to date on implementation
- experience for this MIB. Additional information was requested from
- the IETF mailing list after the last call but no response was
- received. This protocol will remain on the IESG Agenda for further
- review.
-
- ACTION: Davin -- Conduct a review of implementation experience with the
- Token Ring MIB.
-
- o Token Bus MIB
-
- The IESG has reviewed the Token Bus MIB and has determined that
- there is insufficient implementation and operational experience for
- this MIB to be advanced to Draft Standard. Until this MIB is
- revised, the IESG is unable to act and so has decided to
- #put this document into suspended animation#.
-
- ACTION: Davin -- Review the Token Bus MIB and resubmit to the IESG when
- it has sufficient implementation experience.
-
- o Routing Information Protocol Version 2
-
- The review of RIP is still underway. No information to report.
-
- o BGP Default Route
-
- The IESG reviewed the BGP Default Route Advertisement document for
- Proposed Standard and approved the document for Proposed Standard
- pending the close of the last call period.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Prepare a recommendation for BGP Default Route
- Advertisement and if there are no comments sent to the IESG or IETF
- mailing lists, send the recommendation to the IAB.
-
- o OSPF Applicability Statement
-
- The IESG reviewed and approved the IAB applicability statement for OSPF.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil - Prepare a recommendation to elevate the OSPF AD to
- Proposed Standard. Send this recommendation to the IESG for review
- prior to sending it to the IAB.
-
- o Identification Server
- o Ident MIB
-
- A new issue has surfaced since the last call has been issued for
- this protocols. The optional character set designation is not very
- clear and the mechanisms for registration are not documented. The
- IESG discussed this issue and recommends that the character set
- registry set up for MIME be used for registration. Ident currently
- lists a version of OCTET as the default character set. The IESG
- understands the potential utility for returning non-ascii
- transformations of the user data but is not aware of any current use
- of such and agrees with the IAB's architectural preference for ASCII
- as the default character set.
-
- The Ident MIB also contains a character set identifier, but it is
- encoded as a OID. The MIME registry does not include OIDs and will
- need to be expanded to handle these values. Wording changes to the
- Ident MIB are needed to reflect these changes.
-
- POSITION: In Internet Protocols, if the character set is unspecified,
- the default must be US-ASCII. To facilitate internationalization,
- future protocols should provide a means for explicity identifying the
- character set in use.
-
- ACTION: Greg Vaudreuil -- With the assistance of Chuck Davin and Steve
- Crocker, write a draft policy statement on the use of character sets
- in Internet Protocols.
-
- 3) RFC Editor Actions
-
- o Sender Initiated File Transfer
-
- The IESG reviewed this submission for Experimental protocol and
- concluded that this protocol does not fit the current Architectural
- model, but is not harmful and acceptable as an experiment.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Notify the RFC Editor that the SIFT protocol is
- acceptable to the IESG for publication as an Experimental RFC.
-
- 4) Working Group Actions
-
- With the completion of the draft IESG ROAD Plan, the PIP and IPAE
- Working Groups can now be announced. The IESG expressed a
- preference for announcing the likely Working Groups together,
- including the TCP/UDP for Bigger Addresses Working Group if a
- charter can be prepared in the next day.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the PIP and IPAE Working Groups to the
- IETF Mailing List.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Solicit an updated version of the TUBA charter,
- send it to the IESG-TECH mailing list and send it to the IETF list as
- soon as possible.
-
- o Uninterruptable Power Supply MIB (upsmib)
-
- The IESG reviewed and approved the formation of the UPS MIB Working
- Group.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil: Announce the UPS MIB Working Group to the IETF.
-
- 5) Technical Management Issues
-
- o ROAD Work Plan
-
- The IESG reviewed the draft IESG ROAD work plan and agreed to post
- it as an Internet Draft. The document needs public review and comment
- but also needs the visability associated wqith publication as an RFC.
- If there are no objections to the document, the IESG expressed a
- desire to post the document as an Informational RFC.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Finalize the formatting of the ROAD document and
- post it as an Internet Draft Friday Morning. Forward the announcement
- to the Big Internet Mailing Lists.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Schedule discussion of the ROAD Plan at the next
- IESG Teleconference. If there is no objection, submit this document
- to the RFC Editor for publication as an Informational RFC.
-
- o Feedback to the SMTP Working Group
-
- The request by the IESG for additional review of the SMTP extensions
- protocol was interpreted as less than clear and additional guidance
- was sought by the Working Group Chairman. Several points were
- raised for clarification. 1) What if any technical changes does the
- IESG require from the document, 2) Does the IESG have a preference
- for eliminating the folklore and implementation advise, 3) Does the
- IESG have a preference for splitting the protocol into multiple
- documents, and 4) Was the Working Group within its charter to
- address "requirements" issues in SMTP as they relate to the proposed
- extensions.
-
- The IESG discussed these points and made the following conclusions.
- The Working Group was within its charter to do limited
- "requirements" work in addressing SMTP shortcomings. Towards this
- end, the recording of Folklore was seen as positive. The IESG does
- not have a position on whether the folklore is on the protocol
- document or in a separate informational RFC. There is also no IESG
- position on the choice of documenting the protocol a single
- comprehensive document of a series of related documents and leaves
- this choice to the Working Group. The IESG has asked for a
- technical review of specific technical complexities discussed during
- the last call period and would like these discussions reflected in
- the document.
-
- ACTION: Hobby -- Write a note to the SMTP Extensions Working Group
- reflecting the sense of the IESG. This note should be sent by the IESG
- Secretary noonish Friday.
-
-
- Appendix - Action Items
- --------
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil - Send a new recommendation to the IAB to elevate PPP
- Authentication to Proposed Standard.
-
- ACTION: Davin -- Notify the author of the Generic Interface MIB that it
- needs revision before the IESG can consider advancing it to Draft
- Standard. If necessary, conduct a review of this MIB to determine if
- the changes require a re-cycle at Proposed Standard or elevation as a
- Draft Standard.
-
- ACTION: Davin -- Conduct a review of implementation experience with the
- Token Ring MIB.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Prepare a recommendation for BGP Default Route
- Advertisement and if there are no comments sent to the IESG or IETF
- mailing lists, send the recommendation to the IAB.
-
- ACTION: Greg Vaudreuil -- With the assistance of Chuck Davin and Steve
- Crocker, write a draft policy statement on the use of character sets in
- Internet Protocols.
-
- Appendix - Positions Taken
- --------
-
- POSITION: In Internet Protocols, if the character set is unspecified,
- the default must be US-ASCII. To facilitate internationalization,
- future protocols should provide a means for explicity identifying the
- character set in use.
-